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In what setting do we want to write?

I am much more familiar with what's now called the "Legends" storyline than I am with the new canon. But I think we can make it work.
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I'm the same. Legends timeline is my comfort zone. I'm happy to go with whatever everyone else wants to do. Eventually we might hopefully have multiple stories going on in multiple different time periods.
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Why not both?
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Sure, why not?
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Yes, it's our story, our universe. 

We can pick the best from both. Or left out what we don't like. Like the Vong in Legends. 
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Hi guys, I hope everyone is well.  Anyone had any further thoughts on this? I was thinking it might be good to have an 'Into the past' or 'Freezone' section on the forum so folks can get reaquainted with their characters and provide some background for other posters to refer to. It would also give us somewhere to write whilst we decide what the new main timeline/storyline is going to be.
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Good idea, there's a Free Zone now. :]
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May I suggest 19 years after the Battle of Yavin as setting for our main storylines? That would place it some three to two years after the stories and events on the Epics board, and would give our characters a chance to have reunions and catch up on what they have been doing for the past few years and note how much–or how little–they have changed. 19 ABY would also allow us to create stories dealing with:

Canon–Rise of the Populist and Centrist movements in the galaxy (from the novel Bloodline) and the strife that creates, and dealing with Coruscant provisional government and the turmoil that occurs on that planet;

Legends–The return of Grand Admiral Thrawn (fake), the Hand of Thrawn/Chiss events, and the peace treaty between Pellaeon and the New Republic.

19 ABY also puts us just 2 years away from the First Order's initial attempts to subvert the New Republic through the Rinnrivin Di cartel (also from Bloodline), so we could also have strange encounters/espionage stories with mysterious enemies from the Unknown Regions.

What do you all think?
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Hi Gavin, welcome back.

I like this idea. I like this time period. Coincidentally I’m actually just finishing reading Vision of the future. I think we need to decide if we want to start a legends story or a Canon story. I don’t mind which. I’ll happily read the relevant canon novels to get up to speed with events. The idea of a canon story is appealing in some ways as it’s more of a complete fresh start.

Then we need to decide on a premise for our new story. Some event or situation which can draw our characters in? It sounds like there is a lot of intrigue around the rise of the first order which could be fertile ground for stories involving spies, criminals etc.
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Snoke and Mirrors, or stuffing an Old Legend into a New Canon:

I've been thinking/researching about this, and trying fit everything or find an explanation how the old can fit with the new. So if we went with a 19 ABY timeline, our universe would look something like this–

Coruscant:
Legends–Center of Galactic Power for New Republic, home of the NR Senate and Defense Forces;
New Canon–Capital of Core/Inner Rim Imperial Remnant, under a provisional government headed by Man Amedda. Planet is under New Republic occupation, so that should allow for some intrigue.

New Republic government:
Legends–Located on Coruscant, later moved due to Vong invasion;
New Canon–Following defeat of Galactic Empire at Jakku, the capital of the New Republic was first Chandrila, then moved to various planets on a rotating basis, at Hosnian Prime by the time of The Force Awakens movie. I'm in favor of having the government in the process of transferring the government to Hosnian Prime. That will allow for government confusion and disorder.

Imperials:
Legends–By 19 ABY, the Imperials had been reduced to remnant controlling only 8 sectors of the Outer Rim (Besides our own warlords like Admiral Dodonna and his fellow henchmen like Traven Dunn), with Pellaeon realizing that Imperials must come to terms with the New Republic;
New Canon–The Galactic Concordance signed in 5 ABY ends Galactic Civil War, imposes strict restricts on the Empire (think Treaty of Versailles), and confined them to the Core/Inner Rim regions, with a few holdouts in the Mid- and Outer-Rim. This really works out good for us because:
1–One of the holdouts is the Velcar sector, which in Legends was the Velcar Free Zone, which was part of the Pentastar Alignment, which was later incorporated into the Imperial Remnant. That's good enough for me to say the Imperial Remnant exists!
2–By 19 ABY, the majority of the most fervent adherents of the New Order would have made their way to Unknown Regions to join the nascent First Order. Those remaining tended to gravitate toward the "Centrists" political faction, which favored policies similar to that of the Galactic Empire. These beliefs would cause great tension within the Senate as the formerly Imperial planets gain representation in the New Republic, leading to the strife chronicled in the novel "Bloodline" (28 ABY). The idea of ex-Imperials serving in the Senate was an issue that was also brought up in the Legends novel "The New Rebellion", circa 17 ABY.
3–The other major Imperial holdout is the Malastare sector. The have podracing on Malastare.

Imperial Leaders:
Legends–Thrawn/Pellaeon/Daala/others;
New Canon–Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, General Brendol Hux, Snoke. I think it would be easy enough to incorporate them into our stories.

Jedi:
Legends–Luke's Jedi Academy located on Yavin 4; many students, including Han and Leia's three children.
New Canon–Jedi Temple at secret location on Ahch-to, only a dozen students including Han and Leia's only child, Ben. This is one that seems to be most problematic for me. For anyone writing characters with Jedi training, the most plausible workarounds to me would be for those characters to have some reason to leave Ahch-to, be it Luke in Empire Strikes Back fashion, or on a training/learning/recovery mission for Lor San Tekka. The Lor San Tekka angle would also offer up opportunities/adventures revolving around Jedi artifacts. Either way, I'd advise all Jedi to avoid Ben Solo.

Sith:
Legends–Darksiders, Dark side adepts, our own homegrown Sith–(Huntress Nekessla? Dooku lookalike from Vjun?)'
New Canon–Dark Side users but not Sith like Snoke, Kylo Ren, Knights of Ren (though in future).
Any suggestions? Mine is to let people fall under the sway of the Sith or Snoke, but those under Snoke are under his telepathic control.

Any other thoughts? I know there are some details–Boba Fett still seems to be in the Sarlacc, looks like Hobbie Klivian is really dead, and Kessel doesn't look like a potatoe anymore–that kind of ruined things for people, but I'm more than willing to hash thing out.

Recommended New Canon reading list (I haven't read them all)
Bloodline by Claudia Gray
Lost Stars, also by Claudia Gray
Aftermath Trilogy by Chuck Wendig
Last Shot by Daniel Jose Older
Star Wars Propaganda: A History of Persuasive Art in the Galaxy

Other members, please add to the list!
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Also, I've begun sketching out a prologue for the board, a Journal of the Whills type of thing that would encapsulate galactic history from the Battle of Endor to whatever time period our stories will take place. Does anybody have a preference for "Another time, another place" from the original novelization, or the "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"?
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That's fantastic, Gavin. I'm all for doing it in this setting. I don't have a preference for the Prologue, that can be up to you.
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As promised, the prologue I wrote. Looked up Lincoln at his Gettysburg address and borrowed stuff from him, and that Statue of Liberty poem.

ANOTHER galaxy, another time . . . .

It was forged in fire, and given life by those yearning to breathe fee. The Alliance to Restore the Republic, having slain the tyrannical Emperor Palpatine aboard the Death Star battlestation above Endor, decisively defeated the remnants of his Galactic Empire in the skies over the planet Jakku. The terms of the ensuing peace treaty the nascent New Republic imposed upon the Empire were harsh, but it was hoped that they would usher in a new era of peace, prosperity, and freedom throughout the stars.

Yet there were still those within the Imperial ranks who refused to accept defeat. A few chose their hill, opting to die in a hopeless last stand; other Imperial factions who sought to continue the war saw their forces driven back to a precarious toehold on the outer edges of the galaxy. But it was those who vanished into the nether regions of the Great Unknown that were cause for the greatest concern. Were they merely biding their time, marshaling their forces before unleashing hell on the citizens of the galaxy? A vocal but shrinking minority within the New Republic urged constant vigilance against the threat, but their warnings fell upon the deaf ears of a complacent majority who preferred to bury themselves in the more mundane tasks of galactic governance.

Other dark, sinister forces were at work that sought to prey upon the body politic. The criminal element—having long flourished under any regime—viewed the New Republic as merely the latest host upon which to feed. Power and avarice proved too strong a temptation among some charged with serving the public good. The end of the war also saw the end of the unity and shared sense of purpose among the victors, as old rivalries, hatreds, and prejudices raised their ugly head anew, and many sensed once again the slide into factionalism, anarchy, oppression, and conflict. There were those, however, who swore that the sacrifice of their fallen comrades would not be in vain, that the beacon of freedom and above all, hope, would not be extinguished from the galaxy.

From the second saga
Journal of the Whills
“These were the stories I was not destined to tell.”
Baron Papanoida of Pantora, playwright.

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Just as long as we don't have a Yuzhan Vong invasion.
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I love it. No, there will be no Yuuzhan Vong as long as I can help it.

I'm going to try to get that put somewhere visible, as well as some more info up about us, OOC-wise. People are joining whom I don't know, I figure we should explain what this is all about. So, to archive.org I go. (Let me reiterate, all our stuff is still here, in SQL databases, just not easily accessible by me, or accessible at all to the public.)
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Thank you, Sam. I've made a number of edits on the prologue now, but I'm now pleased to say I'm satisfied with the final product.
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Love it, Little Thayer!
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I put it in the wiki and changed the "author" to Gavin.
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Great work Gavin! Thanks for doing that.
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I like the idea with ABY 19 as new point where we continue the story. Should be decide with of the "Facts" of canon and legends happened in our story.

From the new canon I also recommend the books:

Before the Awakening by Greg Rucka (about how Rey, Finn and Poe lived before The Force Awakens)
A New Dawn by John Jackson Miller (for the Rebels fans. How Kanan and Hera first met. And you learn how the Empire takes over a planet)
Most Wanted by Rae Carson (The story before Solo. About how Han and Qi'ra before the movie. A lot about the criminal underground on Corellia)

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